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Bevel-Up Smoother & Bevel-Up Jointer

CorrectedAn independent reviewer read this entry and found corrections. They have been applied to the text, but the reviewer has not re-checked them yet. The list at the end is the record of what changed.

identity

Name: Bevel-Up Smoother (Veritas markets it as the "164 1/2H," a nod to the historic Stanley #164 low-angle smoother already covered in the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry) and Bevel-Up Jointer — the smoothing-format and jointing-format members of the modern bevel-up bench-plane line, siblings of the already-built Low-Angle Jack Plane (the "middle" member, Stanley No. 62 lineage). Lie-Nielsen's parallel models are the No. 164 Low Angle Smoothing Plane and the No. 7-1/2 Low Angle Jointer.

A naming trap worth flagging up front, verified directly against Lee Valley's own catalog: Veritas sells at least THREE distinct "bevel-up smoother" products — the Bevel-Up Smoother/164 1/2H (10", the tool documented here), the smaller Veritas Small Bevel-Up Smooth Plane (9", narrower 1¾" blade, a different SKU), and a separate Veritas Low-Angle Smooth Plane (product 45864). This entry is specifically about the 10", 2¼"-iron Bevel-Up Smoother that shares its iron system with the Jack and Jointer — not the smaller siblings.

Family / category: Surfacing tools → planes → the BEVEL-UP branch → the outer two rungs of the bevel-up bench-plane ladder (Block Plane roots it, Low-Angle Jack Plane is the middle/general-purpose rung, this entry is the fine and coarse ends).

One-line: The bevel-up bench line's specialist pair — a short, heavy, steeply-bevelled Smoother built for the final finishing pass on difficult grain, and a long, mouth-set-back Jointer built for truing edges and flattening panels — both sharing the Block Plane's core mechanism (bevel-up iron, no chipbreaker, cutting angle = bed + bevel) but each tuned by the factory for a different end of the coarse-to-fine spectrum the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry already showed one body can span by blade swap alone.


✦ how NOT to use it

not-for. Shooting: Cohen found the Veritas 164 1/2H unsuitable for his shooting-board use — a model-specific finding, not a category rule; verify side geometry and manufacturer guidance before recommending any smoother model for shooting, and prefer the low-angle jack or jointer where the maker expressly supports it. Neither tool can provide chipbreaker-based tear-out control, because neither has a chipbreaker; high cutting angles are the bevel-up alternative, and results, effort, and surface quality vary by wood and setup — some experienced owners retain a bevel-down smoother for difficult reversing grain.

dangerous. No injury pattern unique to either tool was located, and none is needed to name the controls: both tools expose a razor-sharp blade during removal, sharpening, adjustment, jam clearing, and storage, and the Jointer weighs about 7.5 lb. Secure the work; keep hands clear of the mouth and edge; remove or fully retract the blade before sole work or jam clearing; protect the edge in storage (Veritas: retract the blade for storage and protect the edge); set projection on scrap after sharpening (Veritas); lift and control the Jointer's weight deliberately; follow the model manual when adjusting cap pressure and lateral tracking (Lie-Nielsen cautions against over-tightening and gives model-specific adjustment procedures).

damaging.

beginner-trap.

lineage-misuse.


correct use

The short version — the workbench holds the deep operation.


✦ matching — the workbench's first read

does: the Smoother delivers a final, tear-out-resistant finishing pass on figured or difficult-grain surfaces, factory-tuned to a steeper cutting angle than the Jack or Jointer ship with · the Jointer trues long edges and flattens wide panels via its 22" sole, the only length in the trio capable of bridging a full glue-up edge or panel · both accept the same 25°/38°/50° interchangeable-iron system as the Low-Angle Jack (Veritas line only — see Kit-Fit) for tuning to grain difficulty.

suits: the Smoother suits final-stage finishing on interlocked or figured hardwoods (Lee Valley's own blade guidance names bird's-eye maple as the case for the steepest 50°-bevel/62°-effective option) · the Jointer suits edge-jointing for glue-ups and panel-flattening, and — per forum-sourced accounts — hand-truing boards too long for a benchtop power jointer · both suit shops that already own a Low-Angle Jack and want the same iron system extended to the fine and coarse ends of the range rather than adopting a second, incompatible bevel-down set.

kit-fit:

not-for (project-keyed): don't assume the Smoother shoots — Cohen found the Veritas 164 1/2H unsuitable for his shooting-board use; verify side geometry and manufacturer guidance before recommending any smoother model for shooting, and prefer the low-angle jack or jointer where the maker expressly supports it · don't expect chipbreaker-based control from either tool — they have none; high cutting angles are the bevel-up alternative, with results, effort, and surface quality varying by wood and setup, and some experienced owners keep a bevel-down smoother for difficult reversing grain · don't assume an iron bought for one brand's Jointer fits another model in the "same" line without checking width — the 2"/2"/2.300" LN split and the cross-brand mismatch are real, verified traps.

access: basic depth and mouth adjustment is approachable — a single milled bed, no frog to set, an adjustable mouth in place of a chipbreaker. Long-edge jointing, flatness diagnosis, square sharpening (Lie-Nielsen says its limited lateral adjustment requires a square-sharpened blade), and high-angle figured-grain smoothing (which materially increases pushing effort) are technique-dependent, and the Jointer is much heavier than the Jack. Lie-Nielsen's general category copy calling the low-angle format "great tools for beginners" is not carried here as a blanket beginner recommendation. The same access tension the Jack entry already names applies here too: mechanically approachable, but getting the Smoother's full range on tricky grain, or trusting the Jointer's registration on a long glue-up, still leans on the multi-iron/technique discipline that takes time to build.

per-tool subrecords (the combined entry is retained; these separate the two tools for structured retrieval, per the review):

revival: a natural second and third purchase for a maker who already owns and trusts a Low-Angle Jack and wants the same iron system extended to dedicated ends of the coarse-to-fine range, rather than starting a second, incompatible bevel-down collection from scratch.


anatomy

Only the deltas from Block Plane and Low-Angle Jack Plane are documented — the shared mechanism (bevel-up iron, no chipbreaker, adjustable mouth, cutting angle = bed + bevel) is not re-documented.


variations (living)


trades

Cabinetmaking and fine furniture — the same home trade the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry documents, here specialized to final-finish work (Smoother) and glue-up/panel work (Jointer) rather than the Jack's one-plane versatility. Lutherie and instrument making — the bevel-up bench line's precision is valued generally (per the Low-Angle Jack entry), and a dedicated Jointer suits truing long, thin stock for necks and sides. Honest edge, shared with the sibling entries: the cross-trade (non-wood) and powered/CNC ends remain thin — no strong cross-trade twin was found for either tool in this run's research.


lineage

Ancestors. Both descend directly from the Block Plane's bevel-up mechanism, by way of the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry's own documented scale-up from a pocket tool to a bench-format body. The Smoother's period ancestor is the Stanley No. 164 (1926–1943), already named and dated in the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry as the No. 62's shorter smoothing-format sibling. No Stanley jointer-length counterpart or other period predecessor for the Jointer was located in this run — see History below. Treat the No. 7-1/2/Veritas jointer as a modern format unless broader patent and catalogue research establishes an earlier example.

Descendants/the branch this entry closes out. With this entry, the corpus's bevel-up bench-plane ladder (Smoother → Jack → Jointer) mirrors the bevel-down ladder (Smoothing Plane (Western) / Jack Plane (Western) / Jointer Plane (Western)) rung-for-rung, exactly as the Low-Angle Jack Plane entry anticipated.

Contemporaries. The bevel-down Smoothing Plane (Western) and Jointer Plane (Western) — the chipbreaker-bearing dedicated specialists these two tools are most directly weighed against, and the live "is the bevel-up trio a real substitute for a bevel-down set, or conspicuous consumption?" debate documented in Human Side below. Also a contemporary of the already-built Low-Angle Jack Plane itself, which some owners use as their de facto smoother or short jointer rather than buying the dedicated tools (see Matching).

Petroski lens — this pair does NOT run "form follows failure" the way most of this corpus's entries do; the Jointer specifically runs "form follows completeness." Most tools in this corpus evolve because an earlier form broke or failed at a job. The Bevel-Up Jointer isn't fixing a documented failure in a prior tool — no Stanley jointer-length low-angle bevel-up plane was located in this run. No source located in this run's research states this negatively/explicitly (an absence-of-evidence finding, held at MEDIUM confidence, not a directly-sourced claim), but it is consistent across every source checked: the historic Stanley low-angle bevel-up line stops at the No. 62 (14", jack-length) and the No. 164 (9½", smoother-length) — it never reached jointer length. Lie-Nielsen's own current product copy for the No. 7-1/2 calls it "the largest Low Angle Block Plane ever produced" — even Lie-Nielsen, which built its whole company on reviving out-of-production Stanley designs, frames this tool as a scaled-up block plane rather than a peer to the bevel-down jointer tradition it visually resembles. The Jointer exists to complete a product LINE (matching the bevel-down ladder rung-for-rung, giving Veritas's shared-iron system full coarse-to-fine coverage), not to fix a documented failure in an earlier design. [Lie-Nielsen No. 7-1/2 product page, fetched directly]

history

Origin — the current Veritas and Lie-Nielsen products are modern manufacture; the two formats differ in age. The low-angle smoother format has a documented Stanley No. 164 predecessor (1926–1943; Lie-Nielsen expressly says its No. 164 is based on that plane). The jointer-length format has no period counterpart located in this run. So the modern Veritas Bevel-Up Smoother and Bevel-Up Jointer, and Lie-Nielsen's No. 164 and No. 7-1/2, are modern products completing a system: the Lie-Nielsen No. 164 a stated adaptation of the Stanley 164, the Veritas 164 1/2H Veritas's own larger, heavier design related to but not identical to the vintage 164, and the jointers a modern format unless broader patent and catalogue research establishes an earlier example (the Low-Angle Jack Plane itself is a documented 1905–1942 Stanley model).

Launch dating — an honest gap, held at reasoned-inference confidence. No manufacturer-stated introduction year was located for either Veritas tool despite direct searching of Lee Valley's own site. The best available evidence is indirect: Derek Cohen's dated, named reviews of the Bevel-Up Jointer (November 2005) and the Bevel-Up Smoother (January 2006) place both tools on the market by the second half of 2005 at the latest, with Cohen's own framing suggesting the Jointer arrived after the Low-Angle Jack and around the same time as or shortly before the Smoother — completing the three-plane bevel-up bench family within roughly a year. This is inferred from review dates, not a cited manufacturer announcement. [Derek Cohen, "The Veritas (Lee Valley) Bevel Up Jointer," inthewoodshop.com, Nov 2005; "The Veritas (Lee Valley) Bevel Up Smoother," inthewoodshop.com, Jan 2006 — both fetched directly]

Patents. Both current Lee Valley product pages state "Patented" but give no patent number, and this run could not locate a Smoother- or Jointer-specific patent distinct from the shared bevel-up mechanism patents (adjustable mouth, blade registration) already documented in the sibling entries. The review (2026-08-12) narrows the gap: US 7,603,783 B2, assigned to Lee Valley Tools, covers an adjustable-mouth woodworking plane with a stop screw matching the advertised mouth-stop function, and US 8,424,214 B2 covers a plane-blade adjustment/lateral-stabilizer improvement; whether each claim reads on each sold model requires claim-to-product analysis, which has not been done.

A design decision specific to the Jointer, not shared with the Jack. Derek Cohen's direct measurement comparison against vintage Stanley jointers found that although the Veritas Bevel-Up Jointer matches a Stanley #7's overall 22" length, its mouth is deliberately set further back — giving it the same toe-to-mouth registration distance (7⅞") as the longer Stanley #8, not the shorter #7's 7 5/16". Cohen's own framing: "This offers the equivalent registration area as a #8 jointer plane." This is a real, sourced, Jointer-specific geometry choice, not present in the Jack or Smoother. [Derek Cohen, Bevel Up Jointer review, fetched directly]


human side

Derek Cohen (Perth, Australia — identified on his own site as a clinical psychologist and a long-established, widely cross-cited hand-tool reviewer) wrote two separate, methodologically detailed reviews specifically of these two tools, not the Jack. For the Jointer, he built an entire sofa table using the tool as his only bench plane, stress-testing it across a full range of cutting angles, and compared it head-to-head against his own tuned vintage Stanley #7: "There is no doubt in my mind that the LV Bevel Up Jointer Plane far outclasses the Stanley #7, a plane that has been the benchmark for many." He also names a real, specific complaint — the front knob's mounting screw was "sunk a tad too deeply," leaving sharp recess edges, where the Stanley's sat flush. For the Smoother, Cohen ran a controlled comparative test — shaving thickness measured with a digital micrometer, tear-out graded and photographed — against a vintage Stanley #4½, an HNT Gordon smoother, and Veritas's own smaller Low-Angle Smooth Plane, across six timber species including notoriously difficult interlocked-grain Australian hardwoods (Jarrah, Karri, Camphor laurel). His verdict: "For the majority of the smoothing, especially that involving hardwoods, I will turn to the BUS." A detail worth carrying directly into Matching: Cohen states plainly that "the BUS cannot be used on a shooting board" — his conclusion about the specific Veritas Bevel-Up Smoother (164 1/2H) he tested, not a finding about every smoother body (the Lie-Nielsen No. 164 is geometrically different and was not tested). The Low-Angle Jack, whose defining job (per that entry's own Matthew Kenney citation) is shooting end grain, is the family member whose makers expressly support that job. [Derek Cohen, both reviews, inthewoodshop.com, fetched directly]

Chris Gochnour (Fine Woodworking contributing author, identity verified via FWW's own byline) reviewed the Bevel-Up Jointer for Fine Woodworking's structured editor-test format (Dec 2007), rating its sole flatness "Good" in FWW's own test table and writing: "Jointing board edges for glue-up was quick and predictable, and panels flattened with the plane were ready for finish — flat and smooth, with no torn grain. I highly recommend this tool." [Fine Woodworking, Dec 1 2007, fetched directly]

The live "is the bevel-up trio a real substitute for a full bevel-down set?" debate. A Sawmill Creek thread on bevel-up smoothing planes captures two named, opposed positions: Charles Guest argues that a baseline bevel-down jack/jointer/smoother trio is the real foundation and stacking a bevel-up set on top of it is "conspicuous consumption"; Prashun Patel, who runs the bevel-up jack and jointer as his primary users, calls them "indispensable." This is reported as a live, unresolved community disagreement, not adjudicated one way or the other. Multiple independent named posters in the same forum thread (Prashun Patel, Jim Koepke, Keegan Shields) each separately report that they still reach for a bevel-down smoother with a tight chipbreaker (commonly a Lie-Nielsen No. 4 or 4½) on their worst reversing/interlocked-grain boards, even though they own and use a bevel-up smoother regularly — a structural limitation (no chipbreaker on any bevel-up plane) that several experienced users independently converge on managing the same way. [Sawmill Creek, "Bevel-up smoothing planes," fetched directly]

Stories/texture — the LumberJocks record of maintaining a jointer at this length. One forum account (unverified poster identity, held at LOWER confidence) describes flattening a 22" Veritas Bevel-Up Jointer's sole — which had developed a slight end-to-end concavity — using a belt sander, working cautiously with light pressure and cooling pauses to avoid overheating the ductile-iron casting. A separate Sawmill Creek account (also unverified identity) describes using the Bevel-Up Jointer effectively on 12-foot boards too long for a power jointer, taking 2–3-foot continuous shavings on hard maple. [LumberJocks and Sawmill Creek threads, fetched directly; both LOWER confidence, unverified posters]


✦ proof of existence

Manufacturer documentation (HIGH confidence, directly fetched): current Lee Valley product pages for the Bevel-Up Smoother and Bevel-Up Jointer; current Lie-Nielsen product pages for the No. 164 and No. 7-1/2, including LN's own downloadable instruction material.

Independent institutional verification: Fine Woodworking's own structured "Editor Test Results" format (named byline, Chris Gochnour, Dec 2007), including a distinct rated "Sole Flatness: Good" category for the Bevel-Up Jointer — about as close to an institutional verification record as exists for a tool this modern.

Patents: both current Lee Valley pages state "Patented" with no patent number given; no Smoother- or Jointer-specific patent distinct from the shared bevel-up mechanism patents already cited in the sibling entries was located this run. The review names two relevant Lee Valley-assigned patents (US 7,603,783 B2, adjustable mouth with stop screw; US 8,424,214 B2, blade adjustment/lateral stabilizer) — see History; claim-to-product mapping not done.

Museum/collection records: none found, as expected — both tools are modern (post-2000) commercial products with no located historic antecedent to anchor a museum search to.


references

TitleAuthor/SourceURLKind
Veritas Bevel-Up Smoother Plane (51870)Lee Valley / Veritasveritastools.ca/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes/bevel-up/51870-veritas-bevel-up-smoother-planemanufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20; exact URL and 2026-08-12 price snapshot via the review — supports the 164 1/2H designation, 10" sole, 12° bed, 38° stock bevel, 2¼" blade, weight, optional bevels, storage/setup guidance
Veritas Bevel-Up Jointer Plane (52414)Lee Valley / Veritasveritastools.ca/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes/bevel-up/52414-veritas-bevel-up-jointer-planemanufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20; exact URL and 2026-08-12 price snapshot via the review — supports the 22" sole, 12°/25° geometry, 2¼" blade, weight, jointer role, fence
Veritas Bevel-Up Bench Plane Blades (101592)Lee Valley / Veritasveritastools.ca/en-ca/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes/blades/101592-veritas-bevel-up-bench-plane-bladesmanufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20; exact URL via the review — the shared-iron-width verification and the 37°/50°/62° use matrix
Veritas Small Bevel-Up Smooth Plane / Low-Angle Smooth PlaneLee Valleyleevalley.com (exact page URLs not recorded — upgrade owed)manufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20 — the naming-trap disambiguation
No. 164 Low Angle Smoothing PlaneLie-Nielsenlie-nielsen.com/products/low-angle-smoothing-plane-manufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20; exact URL via the review — supports the Stanley No. 164 basis and 1926–1943 dates, 9½" length, 2" blade, 12° bed, weight, flatness tolerance, unavailable status (2026-07-20 and 2026-08-12)
No. 7-1/2 Low Angle JointerLie-Nielsenlie-nielsen.com/products/low-angle-jointermanufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20; exact URL via the review — the "largest Low Angle Block Plane ever produced" framing, the .0015" sole spec, 2.300" blade, unavailable status (2026-07-20 and 2026-08-12)
No. 62 Low Angle Jack (context)Lie-Nielsenlie-nielsen.com (exact page URL not recorded — upgrade owed)manufacturer, primary, fetched directly 2026-07-20
The Veritas (Lee Valley) Bevel Up JointerDerek Cohen, inthewoodshop.com, Nov 2005inthewoodshop.com (exact article URL not recorded — upgrade owed before its quotations are merge-ready)named review, fetched directly 2026-07-20
The Veritas (Lee Valley) Bevel Up SmootherDerek Cohen, inthewoodshop.com, Jan 2006inthewoodshop.com (exact article URL not recorded — upgrade owed before its quotations are merge-ready)named review, fetched directly 2026-07-20
Bevel Up Jointer Plane (review)Chris Gochnour, Fine Woodworking, Dec 2007finewoodworking.com (exact article URL not recorded — upgrade owed)trade press, named author, structured test data, fetched directly 2026-07-20
Bevel-up smoothing planesSawmill Creek forum threadsawmillcreek.org (exact thread URL not recorded — upgrade owed)forum, named posters (Charles Guest, Prashun Patel, Jim Koepke, Keegan Shields), fetched directly 2026-07-20
Veritas Bevel Up Jointer or WoodRiver Jointer Plane?LumberJocks forum threadlumberjocks.com (exact thread URL not recorded — upgrade owed)forum, unverified poster identity, LOWER confidence, fetched 2026-07-20
LV Bevel Up Jointer Plane/Veritas Jointer Fence — ReviewedSawmill Creek forum threadsawmillcreek.org (exact thread URL not recorded — upgrade owed)forum, unverified poster identity, LOWER confidence, fetched 2026-07-20
US 7,603,783 B2 — Woodworking plane with adjustable mouthLee Valley Tools (assignee)patents.google.com/patent/US7603783B2/enpatent, cited via the review (2026-08-12), not read by Haft — movable toe / adjustable mouth stop; claim-to-product mapping not done
US 8,424,214 B2 — Plane blade adjustment improvement—patents.google.com/patent/US8424214B2/enpatent, cited via the review (2026-08-12), not read by Haft — plane-adjuster / lateral stabilizer; model-specific application not asserted

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The reviewer's corrections (11)

Cite this entry: "Bevel-Up Smoother & Bevel-Up Jointer." Hewn Tool Library, hewn.build/tools/bevel-up-smoother-bevel-up-jointer. Reviewed 2026-08-12. Also as plain Markdown.